96 Hour Sour

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Hello.  I'm a long time listener, first time caller.

 

A short bit about me:-

I have been successfully brewing beer for no less than two years and comfortably baking 'standard' bread and other yeasty goodies for 5 years or more using dehydrated yeast in a bread machine and also by hand.  I have been looking for a way to prove myself [sic] and have considered that I can say I've mastered yeast cookery/bakery only once I've mastered sourdough.

 

The doughy bit:-

Over the last week I've attempted, and appear to have been sucessful with, my first sourdough starter and subsequetly today I've attempted my first sourdough/'naturally levened' loaf.  The starter is 50% wholemeal and 50% white flour (the often frowned upon econo style plain white, bleach and all).  I've also made my first loaves from the same flour ratios.  I chose these particular ratios and flours as they are what I usually bake with.

 

My question and point:-

I have known a sourdough baker with whom I seem to have lost contact.  I recall this baker coveted a 96 hour sourdough loaf and indicated that it is a good indicator as to how good a sourdough baker is.  My understanding is that the dough was fermented for 96 hours before baking.  I tried searching for a recipe on this website and through a search engine and have not found anything close to what I'm after.  Is the 96 hours solely spent on the first steps eg; just after combining leven and flour+water or is there some other technique? Can anyone help me with a technique for such a loaf?

 

Thanks.

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panfresca 2011 October 26

The flavour development should be impressive. The risk would be overproofing, from which there is no return.

The obvious starting points would be low hydration and cool temperatures - and I would imagine a very small % of starter.  Or perhaps a pre-ferment would be used - that would avoid the overproofing problem?

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Old Possum 2011 October 27

Hmmm, Teresa from Northwest Sourdough (http://www.northwestsourdough.com) has a section in her (free) bread book #3 (which can be downloaded from her website) about motherdoughs. This is a dough which is anything from 50% to 80% hydration which is kept permanently in the fridge. It needs to cold ferment from 2 to 5 days before it needs to be used or fed and when baking it must have been fermenting at least two days from the last feed. It is mixed with a normal 166% hydration starter and the breadmaking process is then normal.

I have been experimenting with this motherdough for a couple of weeks (although I convert the recipes back to using a 100% starter rather than 166%) and I have to say that the motherdough introduces a real depth and complexity of flavour which you don't get from a more "normal" process.

I wonder if this is what the 96 hour sourdough is all about?

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farinam 2011 October 27

I don't have my copy with me at the moment, but I seem to recall something similar in The Natural Tucker Bread Book by John Downes.

Somebody else might be able to confirm or deny.

Farinam

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