Ok so this is not technically a sourdough, has a bit of yeast in it, but is a fantastic deli German rye bread. I got the inspiration from Nils at http://theinversecook.wordpress.com/
Tastes great, I used both white rye and whole grain, and it stayed really fresh for a whole week!
Tastes great, I used both white rye and whole grain, and it stayed really fresh for a whole week!
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Wow. One week and still good? And, Nils mentioned this bread doesn't keep as well as other traditional german breads!
Somehow, when I look at your breads, they seem to be so YOU. They always have that free artistic feel. Chew on that...lol.
TP
You haven't given Nils the invite to the forum??
Looking at the recipe, surely the baker's yeast can be left out? Whaddya think? For recipes with both sourdough starter and baker's yeast, turning them into full sourdoughs have a high chance of success. Just my 2 sen.
TP
Yeah it's just starting to stale slightly but I think the whole grain rye is a big help!
Chew on that!
; )
Ask Nils to come on board, he is a really great baker and I think he deserves all the accolades!
Hehe...he shouldn't know me...
I may be his biggest nightmare of a fan. Shh...don't let him know.
TP
Thanks for the mention. One week, Jeremy? Mh, must be the flour, mine dried out quickly. Haven't tried it without yeast, but should be possible. Question is, how long will it take to rise?
An invitation wasn't necessary, since I have been a lurking reader even before the site got its new look and feel, and a silent witness of the numerous bake-offs you guys have been doing. Hope to join one. Anyhow, you won't get rid of me now.
Best,
Nils
Using only sourdough...3 - 5 hrs bulk and 2 + hrs final fermentation is my guess.
Cheers
TP
This Berlin Short Sour is new to me,I would agree on the proving times theoretically. MY book says that yeast is added to make up for little yeast multiplication rate over very short sourdough-building-phase of 3 hours. Worth a try.
Regards, Nils
An 'Open House' is when we open our house to people (friends, friends of friends, anybody) to walk in whenever they want during a stretch of time to partake in festive food and camaraderie. Malaysians are a warm lot. Must be the weather.
Best
TP, wants to bake it all! If only.
Another thing, slap a slather of your favorite kase or some leberwurst and there won't be enough left to have to wrap around except maybe your mouth while your chewing on the crumbs!
: )
Congratulations Jeremy, the bread is very very beautyful and must be very tasteful too! I am comming baking recently from Germany and i must to say that your bread is an "autentic german bread".
Eduardo.
It looks just like my Omi's (Grandma). I lived in Germany and the Bauren Brot is soooo good. I have a starter ready for this weekend. Water and Rye sat on the counter for 48 hours. It became beautifully bubbly. I added white flour and water and now it's cooling in the fridge. I'm going to attempt it this weekend.
I have starters all over the kitchen. The Mother - is on it's 20th day and I've made french bread from it already. I have another french started incase the german goes wrong. I know the french will work so I won't be disapointed when the german turns into round bricks.
I'll write more and maybe take some photos.
have a great weekend.
Baking Barb
K.
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for reminding me what I used to like so much about living in Germany... The wonderful everyday german rye. I tried to follow your links for the recipe for this bread and made it without the bakers yeast. It turned out pretty well but yours looks like it had more rye, and probably other whole grains, did I miss something? Can you post a more direct link or is this the right one?
http://www.stirthepots.com/
Jane's Light rye like Nury? Actually this recipe didn't have any bakers? So which recipe goes with the pictures? What I made was good and by the way I used the BRM Dark organic rye in the recipe. I took a pic but it is on my son's camera and I haven't bothered to learn how to get it uploaded yet. Sometimes technology is not a timesaving thing... Not when you have to spend time getting back up to speed. I would rather make some bread.
Terri
this is the bread, Nils the amazing baker always inspires! I didn't use yeast in this specific loaf!
Jeremy
P.S. Please leave comments on my site y'all!
http://theinversecook.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/berliner-short-sour/
Cheers,
Terri
PS. You are talking about the stir the pots web right?
I missed something were you looking at the Berliner kurz sauer in this thread or something on my site??? www.stirthepots.com?
I did make the inversecooks roggemmishcbrot but haven't posted anything yet on it, will do when I get a chance.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Terri
Terri
The flavor of peanut butter could be just peanut butter (rare) or maybe it had an off-flavor, i.e. it was not a very good loaf.
I am glad, there's a movement of bakers, called "slow baking", trying to get away from all the obscure artificial additives that are allowed (and used) in quite a few German breads.
Regards,
Nils
The Bakery was either in Ludwigsburg or Stuttgart where I lived for a bit. I used to go there often, she was a really nice baker. One day she offered me a pastry that was really amazing. It kind of looked like an apple dumpling sort of a ball with all 4 corners brought to the center. But it was hollow and had some kind of sweet creamy cheese lining the inside in a very thin coat. I don't even know how that was possible. It was warm, flaky and delicious and she wouldn't take any payment for it. It may have been an experiment. I just happened along at the right moment!
I'm not sure about the soy bread but if you ever run across a recipe that matches the description, or the pastry for that matter, keep me in mind!!
Terri
I've used soy beans. I read about it in Joe Ortiz's "The Village Baker". It was a loaf named "Korni" from German baker Kurt König. The beans have a great taste, which I prefer a lot over soy flour. I like to boil them and add them chopped and lightly roasted to grainy rye loaves. Really good.
The pastry you write about apparently didn't take off - I've never seen it. Empty interior and creamy filling does remind me of "Windbeutel" though, made from pâte à choux.
Regards,
Nils
Nils, you take control, I am struggling with my baking lately, tried making Supke's Hamsterbrot, what a disaster!
Jeremy
Thanks Nils that sounds like the bread exactly. I am trying to track down the book, we have a great library system through the school where I work. If I can't get it I will let you know maybe you can come up with the recipe. I usually use grams and weigh everything. I always knew cups were very inaccurate I wish all baking was in grams. There is something I don't quite get in German recipes though - what is Teel? Is it like a teaspoon?
Terri
Well, I have a table that will help you: mehl=flour hefe=yeast wasser=water sauerteig=sourdough roggen=rye weizen=wheat vollkornmehl=whole wheat esslöffel(EL)= tablespoon becher=cup Eduardo.(padeiro gaucho) - from Brasil.
If I remember correctly your other language would be Portuguese, as Brazil speaks mainly Portugese I think? So do you have any good Sourdough Portuguese bread recipes? Your German Homemade Sourdough Bread recipe looks very good. I have been trying to find a good use for my languishing Rye starter so I have been trying German Breads... And of course I remember the great Rye Breads they used to have in Germany...(I hope they still have some of it, in case I get to go back.) I wouldn't want to bicycle all over Germany just to eat white tasteless fluff.
Also I would be interested in the recipe for the rye & soy bread you have in your Gallery... It looks Beautiful and interesting.
Vielen Danke,
Terri