I thought I had better start a blog on my Baking and my first forum entry was really a blog anyway.
I have made all my SD as an unbleached white flour/ rye flour blend but finally last week I took a few grams of my starter and fed it up as a white starter.
Last night was the first bake with the new white starter and I have noticed a few things:
1. The white starter I had split off was much more active than the rye blend. It really should have been fed every 12 hours but the rye blend only needs feeding every 24 or 48 hours (at room temperature).
2. Admittedly at a slightly higher hydration (because the starter was wetter) the white dough pretty well collapsed when slashed but then puffed up when baked and ended up with a nice shape and a greater volume in the end than my normal rye blend. The rye blend baked at the same time turned out as normal, but was a little underproved.
I'll know what the white is really like when I cut it open when I get home (I'll try to post a picture)
Has anyone else noticed a difference in properties when baking white and rye blend?
Cheers,
Pete
I have made all my SD as an unbleached white flour/ rye flour blend but finally last week I took a few grams of my starter and fed it up as a white starter.
Last night was the first bake with the new white starter and I have noticed a few things:
1. The white starter I had split off was much more active than the rye blend. It really should have been fed every 12 hours but the rye blend only needs feeding every 24 or 48 hours (at room temperature).
2. Admittedly at a slightly higher hydration (because the starter was wetter) the white dough pretty well collapsed when slashed but then puffed up when baked and ended up with a nice shape and a greater volume in the end than my normal rye blend. The rye blend baked at the same time turned out as normal, but was a little underproved.
I'll know what the white is really like when I cut it open when I get home (I'll try to post a picture)
Has anyone else noticed a difference in properties when baking white and rye blend?
Cheers,
Pete
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Thats the price of success! :lol:
I think your bread looks very good. I too struggle with bursting breads - mine pops out along the top and sides like eyeballs!!
A baking teacher has suggested too old rye flour (not in my case) or uneven tension from shaping. With high hydration white loaves it seems tucking the mass of dough evenly under a smooth skin is one of those hand skills to be attained slowly, carefully, thoughtfully..
Using steam in the oven has definately helped too, as well as getting the proving time right.
Any other beaut tutes Boris, because I know how frustrating this is?
Anway a few pictures, I didn't get a shot of the white inside, but it's the same as last week and tastes great so I'm happy with that.
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I cut all the rye for freezing we ate a white and friends got another so I have some full white loaves in the freezer, so I'm set for a bit, given we have Christmas parties etc just about every weekend day till Christmas :( bah humbug :D
I love the look of your white loaves Wet,, that close up shot of the slash looks so good it makes me hungry and could be used in an advert! Nice crumb structure in your loaves too! You will be pleased to know that I have your bag of rye in my kitchen and I might try to drop it off to Dave tomorrow night (if you email me your address, I might even trek out to your place). The surface of those rye loaves looks weird (Dave hates that flour too), but I'm sure the bread tastes good!
I made a small batch on Saturday evening, making 1 traditional loaf, 1 stick and a few pide breads to have for dinner. I was fairly happy with the results and I'll have to make the pide breads again! :-)
Those pides look the goods for xmas, Pete.
By the way, I think it's all in the original starter, so I'll claim all the credit for your results... Only joking!
I also agree those Pita breads look scrumptious, sounds like the family has an order in already :D
I can't wait to get some more of that decent Rye Flour :)
I made some Pide breads to have at Dave's which seemed to go down pretty well and at lunch May asked if I could make some of these to take along to her place as well as the bread.
I made the dough for the white loaves and gave them a longer primary fermentation and a longer prove than I did for the rye blend loaves. As usual the rye loaves turned out well but for probably the first time the white loaves also turned out very well. There was just the right amount of oven spring so the slashes opened up nicely but loaves did not explode. :-) I forgot to take any pictures but my brother in law took a couple so I will try to get one of these to post at a later date. :wink:
I hope you all had a Merry Christmas and have a happy new year! :-)
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