I consider the DRAFT proposal of sourdough baking terms and definitions are best described in the following way;
by Danubian · More by this author { 2008 April 3 }excellent (exact and ready to be accepted)
40% (4 votes)
good (somewhat accurate and may be ready for acceptance)
30% (3 votes)
adequate (needing further refinement but will do as it stands)
10% (1 vote)
unsatisfactory (needing further refinement but will not do as it stands)
0% (0 votes)
very unsatisfactory (needing complete overhaul, better discarded and start new)
20% (2 votes)
Total votes: 10










DRAFT and rationale for the Poll
by Danubian · More by this author { 2008 April 3 } I have posted a poll to gauge the level of support or disdain for the DRAFT terms and definitions from the original thread "Glossary of Baking terms".This draft is the only proposal that the contributors of this original thread have posted. There have been some objections to various parts of this draft but there has been no other alternative emerged amidst those objections. This may mean the draft proposal has widespread acceptance, or it may mean it's being shunned. But we won't know unless the question is asked. On that basis I put forward a poll to determine where the members stand on this DRAFT. This poll will be open to members for 2 weeks. At the end of this period no more votes can be registered.
Please take the time to read the "glossary of baking terms" thread content so the objections can also be considered. Thank you for participating.
DRAFT
A dough containing all the final ingredients, including but not limited to: sourdough leaven, that is used as the final dough in the bread making process. This dough is baked to form bread.
The process:
fermentationImportant distinction should be added.
by Danubian · More by this author { 2008 April 8 } I negelected to include in my table the very important distinction that 'sourdough' bread should not contain any augmenting ingredient/s such as ascorbic acid, sodium meta-bisulphite, or emulsifers, etc. I must include it in the 'term and definition' blow by blow poll!See this POST here.
Quote:
Bread of sourdough leaven; does not include any other fermentation other than the endemic polyculture of sourdough leaven. [Aeration and/or biochemical effects on sourdough leaven bread character is affected by this polyculture as the only ehancer; other enhancers are deemed to be adulterants] from the first to the final stage then entry into the oven.
Glossary
by Bushturkey · More by this author { 2008 April 11 } The terms are well-defined and very concise. My first thought on reading them, though, was "why do we need to standardise the definitions?"One person's sourdough is another's wild yeast. Both terms are accurate and both are not. Sourdough is not always sour and not always dough (yeast water for example).
I'd follow the KIS principle (Keep It Simple).
Levain or leaven is synonymous with inoculating culture. Bakers would know what it is without a restrictive definition. Even someone new to baking would eventually get to know what the different terms mean.
Not that simple
by Danubian · More by this author { 2008 April 12 } G'day Bushy,Perhaps you're not aware that the baking trade in Australia has been graced in recent years with a large membership of non trade background bakers. Add to this the state of confusion the bakers lexicon has been in the last few decades with regard to sourdough makes it difficult to communicate efficiently with other tradies and customers. here
Here are a few links where I and others made mention of it here
Then again here and here. Of course others overseas have also recognised this and make the same point in other threads and other boards.
However, I've been in the trade for 28 years and I can't recall a time when sourdough terms and definitions have not been confused and inadequate.